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My family and I were leaving home this morning and during
our drive, we encountered a huge swarm of bees. I, unfortunately,
can't identify themas I know nothing about the bee culture. However,
as I drove towards them, they seemed to be approaching our car
at a high rate of speed. In the foreground, I could see this dark
mass of movement coming in my direction. Suddenly, my entire windshield
was covered with bees; most of which were smashed against the
windshield. I've never had this experience and thought I would
share this with you. I don't know if they were the infamous Africanized
offshoot or just an unusually active swarm of ordinary honey bee.
I know this isn't very much to go on. When I stopped my car in
a safer area, I had collected a bumper full of dead bees. I tried
to take them to a lab here in San Diego, but some of them flew
away as I attempted to gather the bodies. Pls advise with any
identifying elements that I can look for in the future.
What you encountered was a flying swarm of bees: When a colony
divides, about half the workers and the queen fly en masse from
the nest to a clustering spot from which they search for a good
cavity for their new nest. When they find it, they fly en masse
again to it. You drove into a swarm doing one of these movements.
Africanized and European bees both do it. A guess of the subspecies
could have been made from the wing lengths of the bees involved,
or DNA analysis from preserved (alcohol) remains.
Hello, I have a question about bees. When the bees begin
to form anew swarm and leave the colony, what chemicals are used
for communicating which bees leave? If you know an answer to my
question, I would really appreciate it.
Probably the answer to your question is "none". Chemicals
involved in swarming behavior include queen pheromones, Nasanov
pheromone, and possibly pheromones given off by the brood. Queen
pheromones are produced mostly in the head, but also other chemicals
from glands elsewhere may be important. One use is sure: it is
used to identify the queen and allow the bees to tell whether
a queen is present (in the hive, or in a swarm of bees after leaving
the hive). Reductions in queen pheromones have been hypothesized
to be one cause of swarming, but this is not well established.
Nasanov pheromone is released by workers from a gland in the
tip of their abdomen. It has a lemony scent. It says, "come
here" and is used to help assemble the swarm cluster after
the bees leave the hive, and help them find the nest entrance
when the swarm moves to a new site. How the decision is reached
about which bees go and which bees stay when a swarm departs is
not known. Probably this is not determined by chemicals, but by
a combination of the ages of the bees, its location in the hive
at the time of swarm departure, and chance.
I have a bee colony in my roof. They are going in and out
of the roof area beside the chimney, where there is no flashing.
We purchased our home last August and as part of our closing deal
the previous owners had the bees removed. The realtor told us
the bee man removed 70 lb. of honey and comb. The bees supposedly
were gone. We frequently saw dead bees on the ground for a couple
of months and felt they were dying off. As November rolled around,
we called the original company to come back to check the bees
and tell us why they were not totally gone. In our first conversation
with him, he told us it was the previous owners' problem to handle
the completion of the job. We have tried to ask him back but he
has never returned our calls.
It is fairly common for bees to re-occupy sites from which
they have been removed. I think this is because the smell of beeswax,
propolis, etc. stays on the site (don't bother trying to remove
it, you are unlikely to succeed), making it easier for house-hunting
scout bees to find the formerly used cavity. How to prevent this?
Ideally, the cavity should be filled up when the bees are removed.
I recommend fiberglass bat insulation where it can be placed into
the cavity, but other materials that fill the cavity and are not
likely to settle should also work. You can sometimes plug up the
holes or cracks leading into the space well enough that bees can't
get in. However, it is risky to count on just this, since if the
caulk cracks, or there were other gaps you did not know about,
bees may still find a way in. I expect that the arrangement between
the bee-removal company and the former owner was that they would
remove the bees, but closing off the hole they left, and filling
up the cavity were the homeowner's responsibility. If this was
not done properly, as above, it is not surprising that bees are
back. In this situation, the bee removal company cannot guarantee
work they were not contracted to do. The above situation should
have been, and probably was, explained to the former owner It
is possible that the bees are Africanized, but not very likely
at this point, since they have not been reported in your area
yet. You might call vector control and see if they are interested
in sampling the bees.
I was wondering what the behavioral differences were between
clustered and swarming bees.
Swarming bees are somewhere in the process of rearing new queen,
departing colony with old queen, clustering on an intermediate
site and looking for a good cavity, flying to it, or moving into
it. Usually, it means the intermediate cluster of bees with scouts
flying out looking for home sites Clustering just means clustering
together. This could be on a swarm or it could be a "winter
cluster" in which the bees form a relatively tight cluster
on the combs to stay warm
I have a swarm of bees that is gathering in my patio. I
want to get rid of them, do you have any suggestions. Will your
trap idea work for me?
By the time you get this, the bees will either have left or
moved into a wall or your house. If they are gone, that's it.
If they are in the wall, you will need to call a specialist to
remove them (see bees in yellow pages). I am afraid it will be
rather expensive. If the removal does not include opening up the
wall and removing everything, there is a danger that honey and
bees left behind will cause further problems. This danger is less
if the bees have been in place only a short time. In any case,
it would be best to fill up the cavity with insulation to prevent
future bees from moving in (and seal up or screen the entrance
hole, but sometimes they find others)
Do you have any information about bees that live in wooden
fences, digging out holes for themselves? I want to remove them
in as humanely away as possible.
The most humane way would be to leave them alone. They are
Carpenter bees (Xylocopa). They are rather harmless. The females
can sting, but only do so if grabbed or stepped on. The males
are territorial, and may approach and investigate you if you get
near, but they cannot sting. The females drill the holes, and
place balls of pollen and nectar which they collect from plants
into cells in the tunnels, and lay eggs on them, which develop
into next year's bees.
There is an unusual phenomenon in Western Virginia. Extremely
large bees have been swooping a homeowner in a recently cleared
area for a new home site. The observation by the homeowner was
that the bees were more aggressive to one another than to the
individual who occupies the home. It appears to the homeowner
that there might possibly be opposing colonies. Could you enlighten
us as to what may be occurring?
Hard to say for sure without seeing the bees, but my guess
is that they are carpenter bee males (Xylocopa virginiana). These
bees are territorial, and defend an area against other males,
but also investigate and or chase other insects and animals in
the vicinity. The females build nests in tunnels they bore in
wood. The males, I think, have yellow on their face but are otherwise
black, and the females are all black. The bees are about 1 inch
long, and quite robust, with dark-colored wings. The males are
unable to sting, and harmless. Females can sting, and will if
picked up or restrained, but generally do not defend their nests
with stings like eusocial bees and wasps.
We live in So. New Hampshire (in the same house for 11 yrs
now). This is the first time we have experienced a very unusual
bee of this description: Large, Larger than a Queen Bee. My husband
first thought it was a "humming-bird", because it flutters
as it bores holes in our pine house. It has almost the same coloring
as a queen bee, but maybe the yellow is a bit darker. My husband
sprayed bee spray on about four of them, but they were very strong
to a direct spray. (He used Zep "Tox") which is very
strong. The bee that he finally made fall was then attacked by
two more bees of the same kind. I am somewhat allergic to a bee
stink, where so far, I swell quite a bit, and last yr. went to
the hospital because the swelling got so bad from a small yellow
jacket. So, were somewhat concerned as to what is trying to invade
our property. If you have any information, please write back.
Thank
If it is boring 3/8-inch diameter holes in wood, and is black
(males also have some yellow) it is probably a carpenter bee (Xylocopa
virginiana). It will not sting you. The males have no sting. They
defend territories, and chase other males, and often fly toward
people to check them out, too. But they can't sting. The females
gather pollen and nectar from flowers, and rear young bees in
the burrows. Unless you capture or step on them, they are very
unlikely to sting
I am concerned about a colony of Africanized Honey Bees
at my parent's house. The location of the nest is not known, however
they are apparently there, because they are attracted to the hummingbird
feeder. Are there any measures my parents can take in order to
get rid of these bees? If so what are they? In addition, if not
what can they do to protect themselves. I really appreciate your
time.
You have not mentioned where your parents live, and that would
be important for evaluating whether it is likely, there are AHB
in the area. Foragers at hummingbird feeders could be coming from
some distance (more than a mile), and pose no real threat themselves.
There are attachments for humming bird feeders to exclude bees
while allowing the birds to sip (they have longer beaks than the
bees have tongues). Looking carefully around the house in the
middle of a fine-weather day might reveal a location where bees
are coming and going from a single spot, indicating a nest, and
this could be re moved by a specialist (see bee removal in yellow
pages)
When do you think the AHB are going to be established in
our counties? Presently we control unwanted feral bees during
the daylight hours and use traditional coverall-type bee suits.
We have never had a problem performing our work in this manner,
however I believe that we will need to switch to dawn and dusk
control times and use the improved bee suits that are being sold
from Texas (with padding sewed into the fabric). Can you give
me an opinion?
If a bee colony is removed quite soon after it moves in (and
most calls probably involve such colonies, I don't think you will
run into many problems. More populous, longer established colonies
are likely to be more defensive (in both AHB and EHB). I have
worked with AHB with ordinary bee suits, and usually this is fine.
In a PCO situation, you are unlikely to be exposed to as many
living angry bees as a beekeeper encounters manipulating colonies,
and I would guess you will not a problem. The mesh suits are cooler
to working, though, and pretty good at preventing stings. I don't
really know whether dawn and dusk will be needed. The principal
advantage is that all the bees are present then, so the number
of flying (and potentially angered) bees is reduced.
My mother who lives in Franconia, NH lives next door to
people who have honey bees. She told me today that the honey bees
come to her birdfeeder at her window and try to carry off the
cracked corn. She says they try to gather it up with their feet
and fly away with it. Unfortunately, they are not usually successful.
Can you tell me why they would do this? I find it very interesting.
In early spring, bees are rearing young bees (larvae) to which
they feed pollen. However, since there are not many flowers yet,
pollen is scarce. Under these circumstances, bees have been reported
to gather many inappropriate powdery amino-acid-containing substances,
including the meal from birdseed and even coal dust. When flowers
become more available, they stop.
We really need some information. Every
night at dusk a huge swarm of bees arrive in our backyard and
the neighbors on both sides of us. I live in northwestern New
York State.... (Newfane-Olcott area, just 20 miles east of Niagara
Falls) This is a rural area. The swarm hovers in the trees and
quite a few (100 or so) hover around the eaves of our house. I
have never seen anything like this before. There are millions
of bees that gather. This wouldn't bother us so much except that
these bees are aggressive. They will "buzz" you just
standing in the yard. If you run, they go after you. These bees
are larger than the common little honey bees, smaller than bumble
bees, and still look different than the larger honey bees which
are fuzzier with a bit of yellow. They do no look like a wasp
or in the family of such. As soon as the sun is gone, they seem
to disappear. Are they still in the tress? We do not see them
all day. When they come at dusk, they don't appear to be going
to a hive.... Just swarming in the trees. I have sat on the porch
and waited for them to arrive trying to see what direction they
seem to come from...it seems from the northwest. Is this normal
behavior? Our weather here has been unusual. Very hot in the afternoon
85-90, and cool at night around 60. We have not had much rain.
Whom should I contact? We are afraid if they would swarm; someone
could get seriously hurt. My husband is allergic to bees to make
matters worse.
Fortunately, I used to study in New York State, so I know what
you are talking about. I am almost certain that what you are describing
are not bees at all, but beetles. Scott Camazine and I wrote an
article on these beetles once, called "swarms at sunset:
the case of the European Chafer" because we got so many calls
about this phenomenon from people who mistook them for bees. These
are mating swarms of European Chafers, scarab beetles slightly
larger than honey bee size. They develop as larvae in turf (where
they sometimes attain pest status by killing grass). In the evening
in June and July, they swarm around trees in search of mates.
They are harmless, and cannot sting.
I need information how I should manage 10 hives by myself
in Trinidad
That is a big subject. I recommend a book on beekeeping, and
starting small, with three or four hives.
In general, mine is not the appropriate source for beekeeping
information. I know a lot about beekeeping, but there are other
sources. There is a listserve group on beekeeping.
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